The Rise and Fall the Alternative Rock Movement (w/ Leslie Fram & Matt Pinfield)

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Rick Beato

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This is the pilot episode of my podcast “Sounding Off with Rick Beato” This is a discussion about the Rise and Fall of the Alternative Rock Movement with two giants of Alternative Radio and MTV. Leslie Fram is Senior VP of Music Strategy for CMT and former program director of 99X Atlanta’s legendary Alternative Rock Station. Matt Pinfield American music personality, TV host and radio DJ best known as a video deejay on MTV and VH1. He was host of MTV’s 120 Minutes from 1995-1999. In January 2021, Pinfield began hosting "New \u0026 Approved," a Sunday evening program featuring new rock music, on 95.5 FM KLOS in Los Angeles.

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Kommentarer
SecondLineNews
SecondLineNews 7 timmar sedan
*of* the Alternative Rock Movement
Solar Van Life
Solar Van Life 18 timmar sedan
in today's world, it takes clicks to make clicks. When you're continually shoveled pablum and click on it, it makes a click which makes a hit in the ratings numbers and shovels more pablum out the door. Algorithms are destroying music.
Chris Vaughn
Chris Vaughn 2 dagar sedan
The setting is so naturally chill and relaxed. As a person who was a teenager when alternative exploded into the mainstream, I could watch this content endlessly. Commercialization and consolidation absolutely destroyed radio. Perfect guests for this topic. Thoroughly enjoyed this one for sure!
Ade Horton
Ade Horton 6 dagar sedan
Neds Atomic Dustbin are from my neck of the woods, Stourbridge in the West Midlands!!
James P
James P 7 dagar sedan
I miss radio. I live in LA, and I have to go to Santa Barbara to listen to a decent station, KJEE.
jim stevenson
jim stevenson 8 dagar sedan
Never realized the importance of the local DJ. Are there any more? Do college stations provide the service of giving local bands exposure?
William Haisch
William Haisch 8 dagar sedan
17:51 “We did not have a budget.” “We had a blast!”
kobayashiMaroo
kobayashiMaroo 10 dagar sedan
there is no such thing as "alternative music", never has been. It is such a silly idea that a *type* of music gets called "alternative". All music is an alternative to *something*. Programming at a radio station is the alternative bit, and THE alternative radio programming, in the States at least, is (or at least was) college radio. Even stations like KROQ or KBCO or WHFS were limited compared to what college radio played. Sure, lots of college radio was bad bad bad, but when it was good . . . goodness gracious, it was WOW. I started putting my shows together in 1981 and I know what we were doing had been done for at least a few years before that, so this alternative college radio thing dates back to the mid-70s at least. The impact of college radio can be debated, of course, and I am far from objective but I would say it has been far undervalued as the "crack in the door" so many bands needed to get their start.
NaboCane
NaboCane 11 dagar sedan
The End 107, and KEXP in Seattle. KEXP is still rocking the world. you can hear it online. 103.7 The Mountain was great in its time; more Adult-Alt/Indie, but some great music was played.
loquayrocks
loquayrocks 15 dagar sedan
from a European perspective. John Peel was everything. If a band could get John Peel to play their demo, their career was launched. He famously played one record 7 times in a row (Teenage Kicks - The Undertones). He had Nirvana on his show before anyone had ever heard of them (The John Peel Sessions)
SmilingIbis
SmilingIbis 16 dagar sedan
Shout out to WBCN in Boston, which, back in the late 70s/early 80s was the functional equivalent of an indie/alternative Rock station.
Amanda Graham
Amanda Graham 20 dagar sedan
Underestimate the audience. That doesn't go well. I was a goth kid and College radio was the way to go. Industrial, Grunge. Etc....
Namegoeshere Orhere
Namegoeshere Orhere 21 dag sedan
I personally don't think anything happened to it, alt music is by definition music that is NOT listened to by the masses and it's always been there. Just because the masses suddenly discovered what had been alt music, therefore making it mainstream and no longer alt, it doesn't mean there wasn't still alt music happening. The big change recently is the internet, unless you're a top 40 kind of person who needs to be told what to like, you go out and find what you like with the click of a mouse.
David Robertson
David Robertson 22 dagar sedan
Love you guys, you brought great memories back, my life WAS music "and then I met her" :( Previously I DJ'd parties and venues, I roadied for local bands, most never made it but some have records and CD's, I hung with bands, some famous, enjoyed a bent mind, and supported them even did a bit of lighting, loved the scene.... even watched AC/DC live in their starting days with less than 100 people!... then TV ruined it, I saw a dating ad.... bye bye life Always wanted to start my own station.... but now we have YT and Rick to keep us alive - Thanks Rick, may the Source be with you.
Ander Clayton
Ander Clayton 22 dagar sedan
Interesting video. I really think that the whole moving towards harder rock happened a bit earlier thuogh. It really felt like almost immediately after Nirvana (etc) hit, rock stations almost immediately veered towards the harder stuff but I did notice later on that my local Alt rock station (1077 The End out of Seattle) defitnitely was shifting pretty hard around 2001ish. It really fractured music a whole lot with artists getting shifted to adult contemporary and just out of pop into r and b or whatnot--rock/pop really lost a lot of its variety at that point and we are still suffering from that. This isn't to say that there isn't cool stuff out there now but gosh it sure feels like they did a bit of golden goose shooting.
dorothy mcconnell
dorothy mcconnell 22 dagar sedan
omg Leslie I listened to 99x all the time and she pinned pointed when I stopped listening to the radio. I hated the nu metal stuff where there was no women, no more crazy weird alternative bands and when the station decided to change like she said.
GDNPB
GDNPB 26 dagar sedan
you cant talk about that time without talking about the Pixies! since all those bands talked about them as an influence...
BlankBrain
BlankBrain 29 dagar sedan
17:55 Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996. This was when all the radio stations got bought up. The corporations (free-market capitalism) killed radio.
Eric Silberstein
Eric Silberstein 29 dagar sedan
Alternative music has never gone away.
Kevin Shea
Kevin Shea Månad sedan
Alternative rock stations back in the early 1990 a co worker and friend of mine we worked at Airborne express he was going to dee j school at that time and he wanted to be a pro Dee jay and cd 101 just started in Columbus Ohio everyone at work told him he was wasting his time that guy was Andy Davis and he did become the voice of cd 101 but unfortunately he passed in the mid 2000s or so rest in ☮️ my brother Andy Man Davis
Max Frank
Max Frank Månad sedan
Matt Pinfield has been a legend since 120 Minutes.
Bee Kay 5150
Bee Kay 5150 Månad sedan
Watching this video again because the alternative format today sucks. Anyway, they used to track market by market. Now? The national format guy at the iHeart/Audacy/whatever office puts out the national playlist and you follow it, cut by cut, from New York to L.A. and everywhere in between.
herrdoktorprofessor
herrdoktorprofessor Månad sedan
Recently 89X the venerable Detroit alternative station of my youth became just another shitty homogenized country station.
herrdoktorprofessor
herrdoktorprofessor Månad sedan
Love Leslie's shoutout to Ned's Atomic Dustbin. Love that band. Unique sound with the dueling bass and the thrash guitar. They should have been huge.
JP GV
JP GV Månad sedan
Keep on rockin' in the free world 😎☮
Mr Schmeltz
Mr Schmeltz Månad sedan
St. Vincent - Daddy's Home porn rock
Char Hinton
Char Hinton Månad sedan
My theory is this: Alternative music will always exist only to be co-opted by corporate greed and then reinvent itself. It's a perpetual and predictable resurrection cycle. Aaternative movements thrive on the fringe with vitality and youth carving their legacy as a generation into the culture. At first, the mainstream is shocked and dismayed.. Eventually, the corporate vultures take notice, white wash it a bit, popularize, brand, and sloganeer their way to the steal, until what was once alternative becomes mainstream. Examples: 1. The flappers of the 1920s were wild independent women with risqué dance moves until be-bop and jazz took the country by storm. 2. In the 50s, Elvis Presely's suggestive hips had girls screaming and swooning in the aisles. Parents were scared of the decadence of rock and roll. Today, Elvis records are not burned, and he is a cherished icon and crooner. 3. In the 60s the Beatles grew their hair over their colors and protested the Vjietnam War with a banned cover of "Yesterday and Today" (known as the butcher baby cover) which was considered obscene. Today Beatles songs are transcribed into hum-along instrumentals in grocery stores, hold lines, and elevators. The shocking psychedelia of Sgt. Peppers is a corporate staple for consumers and radio stations. 4. In the 70s bands like The Sex Pistols, The Clash, and hard rockers AC/DC offered a fresh alternative to the disco craze. Today these records are standard fare on jukeboxes across the country. No one frets about tats, piercings, or blue hair as being signs of the rapture. At the time they were all "shocking," and in some cases banned. Today, the youth call classic rock "dad rock". 5. In the 80s the new wave and synthpop genres revolutionized rock in such a way that whole new genres were fathered as a result (e.g., EDM, IDM, EBM, Rave, Trance, Goa, Coldwave, Darkwave,, etc.). At the same time , parents all over the country thought this new alternative bereft from emotion and feeling; other parents were freaking out that their children were worshipping Satan with Ozzy, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, and "the big 4" thrashers....Today, synthpop ditties serve as a familiar backdrop to the post-modern vehicle ads and people watch an aging Oz on reality TV in the mainstream for entertainment. No one is throwing holy water at the TV. 6. In the 90s we saw the alternative offered by Nirvana make platinum status, while Brits (except for Bush) rejected the grunge scene in exchange for nostalgic britpop-- until the well choreographed "feuds" between Oasis and Blur became a non-stop money maker....Today Kurt is hailed as a Guitar God and Damon Albarn a genius for his Gorillias.....Disco also thrived underground and became hip places to drop MDA and Rave for 7 hours at 160 bpm...Today Rave comps can be found in the bargain bin at $1 a piece while middle age jocks use the soundtracks in their spin class...again, co-opted by the mainstream....oh, and don't forget shockrocker and author of 'AntiChrist Superstar" Marilyn Manson was later nominated for several grammys.... 7. In the new century we first saw the resurgence in 'alternative" ,"indie," lists dominated by urban folk rockers who now play continuously in Starbucks stores.....the alternatives of Emo, and Pop punk of the 90s does a second stab at offering something different only to end up on a Spotify list......🤑🤭😛
procrastinator9
procrastinator9 Månad sedan
I get so tired of radio in my area...its all music piped in from LA or NYC where some coked up exec decides which 40 songs get played on loop decade after decade. One exception: The Current 98.3. The DJs choose the music, talk about the music, introduce new music. Some duds pop up, but I love hearing stuff I haven't heard a million times already.
Richard James
Richard James Månad sedan
Alt Rock has fallen ? News to me...
Suzanne Brindley
Suzanne Brindley Månad sedan
I love living in Asbury Park, NJ because of the music scene. We have that great music community of local artists that support each other.
GarrettWadeD
GarrettWadeD Månad sedan
Damn I wish I could reach any one of you guys to share the music I'm (slowly) working on, because I really think it speaks to a lot of what was said, especially the talk of interesting chord progressions. I play a variety of instruments, and I'm always searching for a series of chords, a melody, a bassline.. What ever type of phrase, it has to have a compelling FEEL. I'm a 90s kid and a huge portion of my favorite music is alternative; actually alternative, as you guys discussed, in the sense that it's DIFFERENT; genre crossover, experimentation.. Etc. Fishbone, Jane's Addiction, grunge bands, soul coughing, Primus...etc. THAT is alternative. And that era is what I'm most inspired by... well add in the trip hop that the 90s also gave us; that's the genre I'm pursuing, but as a guitarist, bassist, keyboardist..a melody maker. And I'm too eclectic to confine to just that. If any of guys somehow come across this, and you're at all interested 😂😂😂 check out my cover...of Davey Graham's cover of Kenny Durham's jazz song, Buffalo, just so you know I can play lol. I play Grahams arrangement with sort of a hip hop beat. And yeah, I like the Jazz era, too, and much more. My originals have a lot of variety besides that, though. That's just one of my sorta better productions (new to diy production).
Frank Daly
Frank Daly Månad sedan
These three should do a Weekly podcast. One of the best interviews I’ve seen on here!
shane scrimshire
shane scrimshire Månad sedan
I really miss the KROQ of the late 80s and early 90s... and Pirate Radio forever. Those stations introduced me to underground and alternative.
Gordon Mccracken
Gordon Mccracken Månad sedan
I remember participating in a 99X contest right after moving to Atlanta to attend a live recording for the The Smashing Pumpkins - only WPC showed up. It was fun!
Guy Eckstine
Guy Eckstine Månad sedan
Excellent dialogue.
Glen Hewton
Glen Hewton Månad sedan
As an old timer listener and music appreciator, this is in my opinion one of the best shows you’ve done. Love the history. As Leslie said, I too am “a huge fan of what you’re doing”.
Sten Madsen
Sten Madsen Månad sedan
As a Dane it was just fantastic music coming from the US. We loved it, it was awesome
Allan Dalgren
Allan Dalgren Månad sedan
I love the way you interview people, letting them speak, rather than just making yourself the main focus of the interview. Never change that and keep up the amazing work!
Dom Addeo
Dom Addeo Månad sedan
We played the Rutgers Dance Marathon in 1984 when Matt was a DJ on WRSU - he then went on to DJ at WHTG. Those were great days in "Jersey Shore" music - though (or maybe because) it was quite competitive there was an electricity at the clubs and bars like few other times - and you could see it covered in the Aquarian and the Pipeline.
420rgb2 2
420rgb2 2 Månad sedan
Correction: Matt Pinfield was the second or third most popular vj on Mtv. Everyone knows the Ricki Rachtman era of Headbanger's Ball was the best. lol
Jiv Ing
Jiv Ing Månad sedan
Woww ,:-0
troyka pix
troyka pix Månad sedan
The thing about genres nothing really made sense. I remember buying CDs and it was labeled as alternative rock while it featured bands that were actually metal or nu metal. Then I would run across CDs that labeled as nu metal selections while having all sorts of stuff on it that some were electronic dance tracks, some were even pop... I didn't mind it that much I liked most of them but the genre labeling just made no sense at all and in some cases even today it still doesn't make sense. And speaking of genre honestly sometimes they should just drop it because some music doesn't fall into anything because it have 20+ genres mixed in, how the hell would you label that, you can't!
troyka pix
troyka pix Månad sedan
@ryacus Sort of like alt rock pretty much morphed with metal and then just spread into branches because it got out of hand.
ryacus
ryacus Månad sedan
Early alternate metal bands later morphed into but metal maybe that's where the confusion lied with the labelers?
richard mindemann
richard mindemann Månad sedan
Radio, and music media in general, are conservative control freaks. They need a homogenized product that they can control. They view creativity as chaos that challenges the authority of radio execs and program directors. Country music is almost always the poster child for this lack of imagination. Today's "Bro Country" is a great example of this phenomenon. Yesterday I was in a restaurant that was playing "today's hot new country" in the background. I heard three consecutive songs that had basically the same melody in the verse. Only the chorus showed any deviation from the norm. The lyrical content checked off certain boxes- trucks, cold beer, hot girls, back roads, etc. And it takes a half dozen writers to come up with each song! People like Leslie and Matt ought to be given free reign. Life would be a lot more interesting. Once a while, glorious chaos breaks through. Check out my tune Present at the Creation for my take on the Rock 'n' Roll Big Bang back in the '50s. Yes, I was there!
Friday
Friday Månad sedan
As seen with the massive popularity in 24/7 SEmost streams from channels like ChilledCow, I do believe that there can be a place here for alternative music and new music in general. It's painful to admit that radio is dying- there is nothing new, and it is very difficult to find new music and bands on the come up. Perhaps these 24/7 streams can inspire someone to replicate the classic alternative and college stations that used to be so popular- because I feel if this was done today say here on SEmost or Spotify, it would absolutely blow up.
Allen Mitchell
Allen Mitchell Månad sedan
Who did Matt say came in late on the second verse of street fighting man? I listed a couple times and the audio clips out at the name
Sebastian Molander
Sebastian Molander Månad sedan
Wow! Such a treat getting to listen to your extensive knowledge and fantastic stories!! Huge thank you!! 😍😃
Rich Beveard
Rich Beveard Månad sedan
Absolutely love this video. I have watched it several times. The time of the Nirvana explosion was such a big time in my life. I use to watch Matt Pinfield on 120 minutes and on Lithium Sirius XM. And listening to Leslie and Matt discuss this is so amazing. I would love to see more interviewes with these two.
Greg Gibbs
Greg Gibbs Månad sedan
Is there an alternative music 'style' that rules now? There was grunge, freak folk and others. But I don't see a scene or style that dominates, which means all these bands are all over the place.
SenecaKnowsBest
SenecaKnowsBest Månad sedan
WHFS - Remember it well. I was stationed Bethesda Naval Hospital in 1974 and that was the hip station. They used to do promos at the Holiday Inn in Bethesda. I think they were based in Manassas. Does anybody know what happened to Frankie McCarthy? It was around that time that Steve Martin used to play banjo as part of his comedy act at the cellar door in Georgetown. And in the early 80s REM played the 930 club. I just looked up some articles about it and the writer called it the 9:30 club as in the time but it was named after the street address, 930 F St.
Lance Lawson
Lance Lawson Månad sedan
Every type of pop music follows the same pattern. It's at first obscure, then it gets discovered and widespread followed by fading back into obscurity.. No era of pop/rock is immune to this pattern. We saw it with the British Invasion, then the acoustic rock of the early 70's, then stadium rock and so on. Don't believe me? When was the last time Fleetwood Mac was big news, or Peter Frampton, not to mention Dylan, Mitch Ryder and so on. Rock/pop is basically disposable sorry to say.
cindy clark
cindy clark Månad sedan
Yes!! This was a fabulous cast today. LA-Fernando Pergamo ❤️ love that kid
Guzzo Pinc
Guzzo Pinc Månad sedan
In the early 90's Janes Addiction and Fugazi were really leading the alternative scene and then Nirvana and Pearl Jam came along and all the mainstream kids got involved. That's what ended it for me. Nirvana was the end of alternative not the beginning.
Craig Casper
Craig Casper Månad sedan
Who are the people giving this video a "thumbs down?" This was such a great interview.
Paul Boudreau
Paul Boudreau Månad sedan
WFNX in Boston was one of those rare alternative radio stations that was commercial and independent (owned by the Boston Phoenix an independent weekly). They were alternative way before Nirvana and way after commercial radio killed the format.
Wheat Williams
Wheat Williams Månad sedan
I haven't seen Leslie in 20 or 25 years. Man. What a blast. Where did the years go?
Scott Garvey
Scott Garvey Månad sedan
Corporate radio has always sucked. They did it for the $$$
cgovea10
cgovea10 Månad sedan
To add more to all that, Is that he world hasn't changed politically and significantly in big terms for example the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, 90s, 2001s etc.
cgovea10
cgovea10 Månad sedan
Today the trend is that kids and teenagers pre-select the music with the internet, teenagers and with them also adults that want to stay young and in trend with the young generation, sometimes adults just like an easy listening song on their way to work etc.
cgovea10
cgovea10 Månad sedan
To me it didn't fall just alternative is not an alternative anymore when Everybody loves it/ likes it,... also it has has happened to other genres way before, meanwhile people change music habits the music industry always try to sell or impose the new easy listening product to the new wave of teenagers growing (mtv time), but that is not happening as we speak, etc...
NovaHands
NovaHands Månad sedan
311 baby!!!
MarLa
MarLa Månad sedan
What a pleasure to meet your friend, Leslie Fram on here. She is so informative and such a class act! So much knowledge amongst the three of you. Thank you for taking us back and educating us all!
Grant Bentley
Grant Bentley Månad sedan
I remember running into the DJs from Live 105 at their day outing to Angel Island in 1987. The fun and energy emanating from that diverse crew in their matching black T-shirts was infectious. Went to a couple of BFD Live 105 concerts in the early 90s featuring bands like The Pretenders, Echo and the Bunnymen, Toad the Wet Sprocket and Blur.
Greg Carroll
Greg Carroll Månad sedan
Great discussion!
NickolaiVolkov
NickolaiVolkov Månad sedan
I LOVE Leslie Fram's communication style and always try to do just that. Interject/participate a little bit and pass the baton so-to-speak to someone else in the group who either hasn't participated in a while or hasn't participated period. Love including others. :) This is wonderful and I'm only 5 minutes in!
Satan Official
Satan Official Månad sedan
"Rock is rocky. But not bullwinkle-y." ---Albert Einstein
Satan Official
Satan Official Månad sedan
Fact checkers say..."Correct!"
Bob Lewis
Bob Lewis Månad sedan
great interview!
Olafur Gudnason
Olafur Gudnason Månad sedan
Since April 2013 I have made monthly playlists of music that I've discovered on Spotify. I would not have discovered even a quarter of it on the radio. But I agree with your guests that I'm missing the background info on the artists that a radio DJ would have provided. - Great interview!
mint mind
mint mind Månad sedan
hey rick, love your videos. you should consider switching to a streaming service that pays the artists better. both napster ($0.019) and tidal ($0.012) pay 4 to 5 times more per stream than spotify ($0.004). a cent per stream obviously isn't much, but hey, it's better than a fraction of a cent. hope you don't mind me saying so, but as an artist who's still trying to make a living with music, i always try to convert folks.
Good Egg
Good Egg Månad sedan
3 radio movies that show radio in good and bad light. "Shut up and Sing" about how consolidation kicked the Dixie Chicks off the air for making a political statement. "Corporate FM" about the ransacking of mom and pop alternative radio stations by wallstreet's holding companies (and what to do about it). "Radio Unnameable" about the legendary Bob Fass who just passed on Saturday.
Karl Haakonsen
Karl Haakonsen Månad sedan
Matt: "The word 'alternative' really meant alternative at that time." So spot on. Eventually, it became a formula like any other formula. It was killed by its own success and by stations pursuing a set standard as to what "sounded alternative." A lot of great music was being excluded because it didn't fit the sound formula as alternative stations became, ironically, more conservative.
Gary Yager
Gary Yager Månad sedan
99X seemed to copy the hugely successful KDGE The Edge in Dallas
Karl Haakonsen
Karl Haakonsen Månad sedan
This is an interesting discussion. I agree with Matt that loss of the connection with the local audience is a huge thing. I'm the same age as Rick and have lived in Boston since 1985. Boston rock radio was second to none in the 1980s and 1990s. We had one of those 15 or so alternative rock stations Matt mentioned (101.7 WFNX) from before the term alternative was coined. We also had a great non-alternative station (104.1 WBCN) that became rock and roll around 1969 and was its own cultural phenomenon promoting Boston's indie rock scene. It didn't hurt that Boston is a huge college town with a youth population that generally embraced the bleeding edge of what was coming out of rock at the time. I remember the seismic shift in the early 1990s when alternative became hot and then eventually became mainstream (hence making the name "alternative" a bit of an oxymoron). Before that seismic shift, WBCN was the big, monolithic rock station and WFNX was the young upstart station. Suddenly, WBCN had to play catch-up and was jumping through hoops to sound like WFNX. I'm working now, but will listen to this more later and share some more thoughts. Great discussion!
Darren Aitcheson
Darren Aitcheson Månad sedan
Would love to hear you talk about Elliot Smith
Andreas Sims
Andreas Sims Månad sedan
True story, a few weeks back I was thinking how cool it would be to see Rick, Matt Pinfield and a few other guests have some sort of panel discussion about the recent resurgence of shoegaze and other forms of alternative music. While that wasn’t exactly what this video was about, damn what a pleasant surprise it was!
Nathan
Nathan Månad sedan
99x was the best from the programing to the concert series! I still have my card and see the van from time to time. Thank you Leslie Fram!
Christy Marks
Christy Marks Månad sedan
Great interview - thanks so much!
woofer devlin
woofer devlin Månad sedan
helloo. Bittersweet Symphony is sample of Stones' manager, Andrew Oldham's, orchestral arrangement of "Last Time"- which is adaptation of Staple Singers' " Maybe the Last Time". next time you hear "Symphony", sing Last Time along with it. Ü♫
Crosstalk Club
Crosstalk Club Månad sedan
Big fan of Matt's since the WHTG days. Great conversation.
Robert Cole
Robert Cole Månad sedan
And if you think I’m wrong , how does it go over when a band plays new stuff that hasn’t been released yet at a show? You need a few listens to get it, I miss my DJs.
Robert Cole
Robert Cole Månad sedan
Alternative always meant something that the machine wasn’t promoting that was good and should have been promoted, Chasing money is the antithesis of the heart of what alternative means. There is no more radio. No one likes a song the first time they hear it. Radio used to perform an enormous public service. Exposing you to new stuff you wouldn’t otherwise hear. You hear it a few times and suddenly it clicks, then you get it, and you go buy it. The DJ turned you on to stuff slowly , insidiously . Now, they want you to like it the first time you hear it. Junk food is what it is, no time to grow into something new as a listener. DJs would hear something and be a friend , every day playing something and knowing you’d get it after a few free listens while you were driving to work. Now what. Who’s your DJ today ?
Robert Cole
Robert Cole Månad sedan
Clinton might have signed it, but republicans did it, and that’s why I’ve never voted for one in my life and never will. They have no soul. Ted Kennedy fought hard against that crap.
Matthew Pinfield
Matthew Pinfield Månad sedan
If you are interested, I wrote a memoir in 2016 titled”All These Things That I’ve Done” published by Scribner/Simon and Schuster. Amazon sells the hardcover and paperback. And it’s on Audible-but it’s not me reading it.
MarLa
MarLa Månad sedan
Huge fan, Matt! I will certainly pick up that memoir! Thank you and so nice to hear your voice and see you again (90s fan here from your time on MTV). Learned so much from you back in the day and this interview with Rick and Leslie was awesome!
Tom Kraemer
Tom Kraemer Månad sedan
There's a special list I keep in my head titled "music that saved my life." More than one record I heard through WHTG is on that list.
Patrick Sheehan
Patrick Sheehan Månad sedan
Great show! I was in Seattle in college during the Grunge explosion. I was solidly a U2, INXS, REM guy in late 1980s. When Nirvana broke first of the locals, it changed Top 20 radio forever. Guys like me who shunned Hair Band, Metal Heads music suddenly could rock out but with a distinctly new sound that merged Beatles psychedelic pop with the iconic Sabbath Hard rock sound. It was loud, brash, but it definitely was NOT metal head music. Would love you to do a video showing us just how Nirvana and Soundgarden’s music fused elements of 1960’s pop aesthetic with Sabbath hard rock. Production was a big factor. Alan Wallace made Nirvana palatable to REM, U2 fans by ditching that sluggish arena rock sound for sharper differentiated instrumental sounds. But a deep dive into the fusion of sounds that Grunge brought about would be an awesome show! Musically what chords, tonalities, melodies, etc did Grunge take from the Kinks, Beatles, Stones etc... Keep up the great work!
Robert Messing
Robert Messing Månad sedan
Thanks Rick! I really enjoyed this conversation. Matt is a great guy! So happy for his success. We were always grateful for his support of my band back in the 80's while he was working at WHTG. He was also a good friend of our guitarist back then. When he passed away in 2015 he wrote this about his times with him in billboard "he used to come to my parent’s house and bring the only VHS tapes we could find of David Bowie, Lou Reed, The Doors and so many other cool artists in the pre-MTV days. We were hungry collectors of music by artists we loved". WHFS in Annapolis Md. and WFNX in Boston were also great stations that were very supportive of alt music back in the 80's. While I don't remember Leslie but chances are that our paths crossed since we always had great support from the Atlanta and Athens alt/college radio from 85-90. We always loved coming down to Ga. Those were Great times that i will never forget!
David Harris
David Harris Månad sedan
Great show! I remember my dad bringing me a mixed-tape back in the late 70's - maybe 1980 (we did a version of college radio at my high school - more like announcements with a music intro/out) that a co-worker gave him to give to me. It was made by his son that worked at the college radio station at the University of Michigan. They were playing many of the "New Bands" that would later be heard on the "mainstream" radio - like R.E.M. Those were great days and I hope we can find our way back to something like that in the near future.
FFGG22E
FFGG22E Månad sedan
HTG was the first place I heard smells like teen spirit. Modern rock at the Jersey shore
EndofMusic
EndofMusic Månad sedan
Possibly nothing more important to me in all of history
J Nagarya
J Nagarya Månad sedan
"Alternative rock"? Alternative to what? To rock. Yet another pseudo-genre marketing label bites the dust.
Mateus Schaeffer
Mateus Schaeffer Månad sedan
Man I gotta say, I’m a 34 y/o musician and I’ve been composing a bunch of alternative rock songs and it does feel like they’re gonna be thrown out into a huge limbo never to be heard of,as soon as they reach this crazy unpredictable market...and that scares me a lot..huge shot in the dark
Nyarlathotep13 Nyarlathotep13
Nyarlathotep13 Nyarlathotep13 Månad sedan
Its probably been done, but I think it would be really cool to have a band and a little interview of a few minutes explaining how their single/hit/new song-whatever song is featured, was influenced by this song or coupla' songs from these more well-known bands and then play those songs. Could be as brief as a song, 2 minutes of detail talking, then the older, established influence song, something like that.
AF TP
AF TP Månad sedan
Nirvana for me was still referencing alternative music. Despite the music being louder you could tell that Kurt Cobain was a huge Pixies and R.E.M. fan. The music was melodious and the songs were short. Nirvana were kind of out place, a band popular with nerds and misfits just like the 80s alternative bands. I never understood why Nirvana were labelled as Grunge. As an alternative fan in the 90s I never identified with Grunge. Grunge too much was the thing alternative always raged against. A band like Pearl Jam was more like a classic rock band to me: long hair and solos. They were just too cool to fit in with alternative.
Karen Ripley
Karen Ripley Månad sedan
Love the respect you guys give Chris Cornell. He lives on in his music & remembrance. PS I interned at KROQ in Pasadena in 1982, wow was I lucky.
Andy Wilkinson
Andy Wilkinson Månad sedan
The clubs ..for example,....in Boston....have dwindled down to a handful....you will always see something published about "Remember when.." and you think of the clubs available to a 20 30 year old in the 80s,,,,swing a dead cat...hit a club....okay ,.,,that's were we are goin 2nite ,..,.alternative ....U2 was at one time ALt ..even the Pixies ...commercials and tv series with Black Frank in the background ?..thats mainstream dudes
Christopher Taylor
Christopher Taylor Månad sedan
Yeah the 15 days to flatten the curve have been incredibly, historically destructive in ways we're not even aware of yet.
Neal Alcaraz
Neal Alcaraz Månad sedan
WOW WOW WOW!! just caught this show and I've been schooled yet again. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
mstax
mstax Månad sedan
A new contender... Flood FM - search for it!
Lynn E
Lynn E Månad sedan
I worked in radio & watched them research the life out of content & distribute slices of sameness from one homogenized "loaf" / playlist.
Lanny DeVaney
Lanny DeVaney 2 månader sedan
Don't know the story behind the Lanny you mentioned at the end, but it always stands out when I hear my (uncommon) name. Great video, enjoyed the interview the entire time. Huge fan of 120 Minutes back in the day, great to know it was from the heart.
Stan Amster
Stan Amster 2 månader sedan
As someone who worked on the air at KROQ-FM in the early 80s, Leslie and Matt are 100% correct. Deregulation turned local radio into corporate radio. Corporate radio completely destroyed radio.
bjack
bjack 2 månader sedan
Corporate consolidation ruins everything every time.
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